Since we’ve already established that Myers-Briggs personality types are one of our favorite things to talk about, we’ll jump right into the specifics of each of the 4 Spectrums. Are you Introverted or Extroverted? Intuitive or Sensing? Feeling or Thinking? Judging or Perceiving? Some of these scales have misleading names that can lead to a misunderstanding about what it means for personality types. Some of the scales have gotten a bad reputation that we are here to rectify! Regardless, we are going to have a little fun today talking about the 16 Personalities.
“The great thing about Myers-Briggs is that everything is a spectrum. It’s not all yes or no.
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We won’t stop at describing the personality traits. No, we are here to show you just how powerful of a tool Myers-Briggs personality types can be when developing business relationships and life partnerships. You don’t have to be the exact same personality type to make a supportive friendship work! We want to explain to you all the beautiful ways that our differences can make us stronger. Not only that, but we will also explain why having a like-minded Biz Bestie can make running your business a little more enjoyable. We hope you will come and Fangirl with us a little bit today!
Show Highlights:
How we use Myers-Briggs in our careers, as well as in our business relationships.
The 16 Personalities explained, and the myths debunked.
Find out the most important letters to have in common with your partner, or your Biz Bestie!
You don’t have to have the same Myers-Briggs to be Biz Besties!
A discussion of the frustrations that can happen on opposite ends of the spectrum.
Habits you can develop to maximize your strengths and work through your weaknesses.
Resources:
00:00:24 - Amber Hawley
Welcome to season one of the My Biz Bestie podcast. I'm Amber Hawley.
00:00:28 - Maelisa Hall
And I'm Melissa Hall.
00:00:30 - Amber Hawley
And today we're going to be fangirling on the Myers-Briggs personality test.
00:00:34 - Maelisa Hall
Yes, because we totally fangirl over a lot and this is our favorite personality test.
00:00:40 - Amber Hawley
Yeah, we are epic fangirlers. So if you ever need some fangirls, you should just reach out to us because we're good at it. Yes, yes.
00:00:46 - Maelisa Hall
If you're awesome, obviously. Obvi. Because, you know, we do have some judgment around what we fangirl over.
00:00:53 - Amber Hawley
Touche. Touche. Yeah, we only fangirl the best stuff. But when we do, we do it well.
00:00:57 - Maelisa Hall
Yes, yes, yes.
00:00:59 - Amber Hawley
So I know that in last episode, we talked a little bit. Well, we started talking about the Myers-Briggs and said we were going to do a little more in depth. We'll probably do this a few times because, well, one, it's just so valuable and we love it. But I could see down the road getting into more of the nuances of finding your biz bestie and support system and using personality tests as one way to determine that.
But today we wanted to go more in depth for you. So those of you who did not listen to the last episode, shame on you, first of all. But you can always go back and listen. So the Myers-Briggs is a personality test. It's one of the most widely used. And it's something that I use in my couples work with the people I work with often because it can be very informative to understand how people look at things, how they communicate and why they kind of are the way they are.
And I know that, Melissa, you also use it a lot too with your clients, right?
00:01:59 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah, I use it a lot with managers to help figure out what type of a person they are and with people when I'm doing career assessments too. Because it's really valuable to see what it is that motivates you and what might be, especially if you're in a job or if you're an entrepreneur and you're working professionally, It really guides a lot of the things that end up frustrating you or exhausting you in your job.
00:02:25 - Amber Hawley
Absolutely. And I think the cool thing about it is it gives you your strengths and your weaknesses. And as a business owner, they say one of the smartest things you can do about your weaknesses is to outsource that. So it can always be helpful to know thyself.
So we're going to get right into it. And I know we'll probably mention it again, but... A good place if you want to check it out for yourself is to go to 16personalities.com. And of course, we will link that in our show notes. But go check that out so you can find out exactly what your personality type is.
And in the Myers-Briggs system, there are 16 different personalities. So I guess maybe, Melissa, what would be the number one thing or where would you like to start as far as addressing what the Myers-Briggs is and how it's helpful?
00:03:13 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah, so the 16 personalities are all created out of four different possible letter combinations. So you get assigned four letters. So like, for example, Amber and I are both ENFPs, and each letter represents a different aspect of your personality. So that's why we already went over I and E, which is introversion and extroversion, last week.
And that, although there's a lot of common misconceptions, that's probably the most widely known or discussed thing personality trait that you hear about just in common language. You don't necessarily hear people talk about the others. So we'll go into those for this episode.
And maybe we'll just go through the list because they're always like the I and the E are always first, and then the next is always either T or F, and then it's always either N or S, and then it's always either J or P. So we can just kind of go through the list like that.
00:04:06 - Amber Hawley
Sure. Although the The second letter is the S and N, and the third letter is the T and F. Oh, yeah, I mixed it up. Yeah. Hey, it's early, folks. You know, this is why we don't like to do things before 1 o'clock, because we're both ENFPs and we're night owls, so this is always a struggle for us.
But we try. And we're not detail people. Yeah, except for sometimes. But yes, agreed, agreed. So we already went over the E and the I. Just as a quick recap for those who didn't listen to last week's episode yet, we are going to say, so again, most people understand that E is for extroversion and I is for introversion.
One of the biggest misconceptions, I think, is the idea that somebody who's an I, an introvert, isn't social. And that has nothing to do with it. It's really about how you get your energy.
So people who are I's, they recharge their batteries by being alone and having that downtime. And E's recharge their batteries by being with people. Now, this is all a spectrum and we're human beings. So even E's need their downtime and even I's need their time with people.
So it's not 100% kind of thing. But I think most of us kind of intuitively know, like, you know, is being around people, do we feel really energized and excited? And is that what kind of gets us, you know, revved up and going? Or is it having that time to yourself where you feel really, like, peaceful and centered?
So that's one of the things. I think most people... kind of intuitively know that one, although I've met some people that were unsure, and I would say they probably fall right in the middle.
00:05:39 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah, and that's one of the really important things, like you said, that it's a spectrum for all of these letters, which is why I like the test at 16personalities.com because it lets you rate yourself along the spectrum. You don't have to say yes or no.
So a lot of the free tests, especially, you are just answering the like one of a pair of questions, and maybe you're saying, well, I don't know, I'm kind of either way. So at 16personalities.com, you can do that, which is awesome. And then you actually, when you get your results, it says, where you are on that spectrum.
So you might be able to see, oh, I'm right in the middle. And then you know why maybe certain things don't resonate with you as much. Or maybe you see, like me, you're like 93% on something.
And so you're like, oh, okay, yeah, that's why I really struggle when I'm talking to people who have this other personality type.
00:06:34 - Amber Hawley
Right. So yeah, I think that was a good synopsis. So if we're going to go, like if we move on from the E and EI, let's go to the S and the N and what that means. Well, I guess I'll introduce. So S is for sensing and N is for intuition. But maybe, Melissa, you can go in depth and kind of tell people what exactly that means.
00:06:52 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah, and this one can sound a little weird, but in general, sensing is kind of looking at, it's basically how do you gather information? So how do you take in information from the world around you? And sensing is that you are looking at Or you tend to look more at facts and objects and things that are actually happening, things that are maybe more specific or literal or what's reality.
And intuition is that you are actually more interested in maybe imagining possibilities or looking at concepts or thinking about what could be. So not necessarily like daydreamer, but it sometimes does happen. lead into that, but also thinking about things that could happen.
So are you more of a visionary type or are you more the person who can look at something and break it down into its little pieces? That's kind of one way in business that it can present itself. The N is the person who is looking ahead and thinking about things and thinking about all the possibilities.
And the S tends to be the person who is looking at what is and how can we make this reality and what can we work with in this actual reality that we have right now.
00:08:09 - Amber Hawley
Yeah. And I always felt like if I were to name these letters, I probably would have called sensing. I would have called it like, oh, like observing. Yeah. I would have called it observing versus intuition. Because I always feel like the intuition part, like people can kind of get that.
You're kind of, you know, you're taking this felt sense. You're looking at things. It's not a woo-woo kind of thing. But it's, yeah, you're looking at things in a more figurative or bigger picture way. You're not being literal. As opposed to the sensing, which I feel should be renamed.
And I think they should seriously consider my input. Yeah. It should be called more observing because it is really specific attention, concrete facts and details.
00:08:55 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah. And even like you said, intuition, it's not intuition in the sense of like, you know, a medium or something. It's more, I mean, that one even isn't really the best name for it because it's more thinking about ideas or concepts. Are you someone who likes to work with that kind of stuff rather than what is actually in front of you?
00:09:14 - Amber Hawley
Right, right. Just to let everybody know, and again, we'll mention it again at the end, but we have a handout that we're going to put on our website, mybizbestie.com. That's going to go through all of this, and it's going to list all the 16 personalities and talk a little bit about each of the letters more specifically.
So if it feels like, whoa, that was a lot of information, just know that there's going to be an awesome resource for you.
00:09:36 - Maelisa Hall
Yes, and it's very succinct. It's pretty awesome. So you can download it and very easily check all this stuff out.
00:09:42 - Amber Hawley
Cool. And then, so Melissa, I know that when we've talked before about all of these personality types, that you had discovered that they say that the sensing and intuition part, if you could have all the letters be different, but they felt like that was the most important pair that...
to have the same when in a relationship.
00:10:03 - Maelisa Hall
I wondered your thoughts on that. Yeah. And that was specifically talking about a partner or a marriage or something like that, where you have a pretty significant relationship. So I could see that also being important in a biz bestie, because that's how you sort of frame a lot of what you are thinking about.
So when you're creating plans, when you are thinking about your future, when you're planning out your day, and everything from now into the future, this is sort of how you can connect. So for example, I think I mentioned that my husband is an INTJ, or if I didn't, he is, which is the total opposite of me except the N.
So even though we are very different and in a lot of ways have to talk through things to explain to one another why we have completely different views on things, with the N, we can...
Commonly sit and have these discussions about what we want our future to look like and all of these visionary things, because we're both like that. So we don't get caught up in necessarily what we're doing right now and how we can work on that. And so that can be a bad thing, right?
So there's benefits to having both. But that's something that the two of us can do very easily because we just automatically both think that way. Whereas if I was talking with someone who was an S, then they might start wanting to backtrack and think about, okay, well, what does that mean that we're going to do right now?
So if we want to, for example, I don't know, move somewhere, right? Move to Oregon, which is one of the many things we've talked about. Then, okay, so So what are the steps we would take to get there? How would we do that? So you can see as far as being an entrepreneur, I think a lot of entrepreneurs are probably visionaries and we need that S person in our business because you need someone to say, okay, awesome, here's this vision, but what are we doing right now to get there?
Because you need someone to spell it out and write down all those steps.
00:12:01 - Amber Hawley
Right. And, you know, as you were talking, like two things came up for me. One, I realized that I've always said I sometimes struggle with people who are extremely literal because one, they don't get my humor. And two, it's like, oh my God, it's a joke.
And we struggle because, you know, because of that, because I'm like, I'm clearly making a joke here. I don't understand why that isn't obvious to you. And it can be frustrating, right? Yeah. But I have many people in my life who are extremely literal, but I love them to pieces and think they're amazing.
But sometimes it bumps up against that part where I'm like, I feel a little exasperated. So that was, as you were talking, that just came to me. I didn't even put that together, that that's the S-N thing. The other part is when you talked about that plan to move to Oregon, it's not that people who are Ns are incapable of doing that.
Because I, you know, like, when we're planning things out, we get very concrete and literal, you know, detailed about things once we're in that mode. But I think it's about that initial conversation of, like, if I said, hey, let's make this happen. Like, let's make, you know, we're going to move to Oregon and we're going to make this happen.
And just kind of, like, brainstorming and talking about it. And if somebody came in at that point and said... well, how are you going to financially make that happen? And how will you sell your house? Or how will you do X, Y, Z? And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy.
We're in the brainstorming stage here. So you need to back up. So I could see where in a couple that would be very frustrating as I think about my own interactions with my husband and in couples I've seen where he is really good about letting me brainstorm and fantasize.
As long as I preface with him, okay, we're just in the fantasy stage here. So he can go with me. So he can take the journey with me and not be like kibosh my dreams. Now that doesn't mean I won't need something down the road. It has to be realistic. It has to be doable, all of that.
And so you're right. I think there's value in having somebody in your business, especially if you're the business owner. But like, anything, that wouldn't be the first person you go to when you're in the brainstorming phase. That would be, okay, let's implement this.
And then they would help you. So I could see a lot of value. It's not that we don't. So if somebody says, hey, I took the test and I'm an N, but hey, I'm detailed. It's yes, we can be very detailed too, but not probably that initial impulse or the way you think about things is probably not going to be like, now let's map out the logistics.
It's going to be like, woo, fun. Yeah.
00:14:38 - Maelisa Hall
This would be amazing. I can really see this working either way with a BizBestie. So my other BizBestie is an ESFP. So she's our same personality, but with the S instead. And she and I do workshops together. And it works so well because we are really complementary.
So as far as doing a certain business task together, I think that one difference is the thing that makes us work together so well. Because typically the things that I don't like to do are the things that she's already on top of. And the things that she doesn't like to do are the things that I have no problem with.
So I could see it going either way.
00:15:18 - Amber Hawley
Yeah, no, yeah, I definitely could see that. And in that dynamic, it does work. So I guess then it comes back to how much of those other things do you align on? How much do you actually enjoy and respect that person? Because that goes a long way, having those kinds of things.
So to remember that all of this is to help us and give us information and maybe help us streamline the process a bit. But at the same time, there are just going to be those times where it makes no sense and it still works. Yeah. All right. Awesome. Well, let's keep this going.
00:15:52 - Maelisa Hall
That was great.
00:15:53 - Amber Hawley
I just had some great awarenesses. Thank you very much. So let's go to the T and the F. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
00:16:00 - Maelisa Hall
Yes. And this one, it's thinking versus feeling, which everyone probably kind of intuitively understands based on that, right? But to get a little bit more in depth, so here is where we're thinking more logical and analytical is the thinking person versus the feeling person.
But if you want to get more into, I kind of view a lot of this personality stuff is motivation, right? Like what motivates or excites you. So like for a feeling person, it's not just that feelings are important to them. It's that things like harmony and having everyone work together are important to them.
So where you see thinking and feeling come, I'm sure you see this all the time, where you see this come up a lot is in arguments, right? When people are having arguments or debates, whether it's over politics or a way that someone said something or the words that someone said, this is where you see this come up all the time.
So a feeling person doesn't necessarily, like they will value harmony in the situation or relationship or whatever it is over being right or over having the facts come to light and the truth come to light per se.
So whereas a thinking person doesn't really care if there's harmony. Or they at least value more that the truth comes out of the situation than that. Everyone who is in the situation or in the discussion is. feels okay about it or feels valued while they're having the discussion.
00:17:33 - Amber Hawley
Yeah. And I want to add to that because I think this one gets misconstrued a lot for people. And I definitely see this one couples counseling. So the F person, the feeling person, it's not that they don't understand the truth. Even if they feel they're in the right, sometimes they're willing just to let it go to move on.
It's not that they're saying, let's keep the truth covered up. What I tend to see is that People who are the T people, and especially if it's pretty extreme, they tend to say like, well, I'm using logic and therefore I'm right. And yours is, you know, yours is wrong and you're being emotional.
And so therefore, you know, you need to... You need to basically come on board with me. And it's not that at all. It's understanding, yes, it's described as using logical reasoning. And at the same time, your logic is based on how you perceive things.
And their logic is based on how they perceive things. And it's perception. And perception is not truth. So you may say, I'm being logical. And I'm sure you are from the data that you use. They're using a different set of data. And they feel just as justified and just as solid about how they're looking at it.
So it's not that they're looking at it in an illogical way. It's that they're just using different data. They're using more what's important here, what's important to me. And so I think that's an important distinction for people to understand. One isn't more right than the other.
00:19:01 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah. And on the flip side, I mean, being a failing person myself, right? I have to remember that with thinking people, it's not all just about logic and analytics either. That is an important part of it. But it's also about justice, right? So is there a just end or a just outcome?
And are things fair? So they're going to value fairness over making sure that everybody feels good about it. So you can see how if we're looking at, for example, you you know, is everyone included, you know, those may not be the same thing in every situation.
And neither of those are going to be right or wrong. They're just different ways of viewing things or different values that you are placing on things.
00:19:44 - Amber Hawley
I'm going to use an example. And it just came to me, so I'm not sure it'll work out really well. But for whatever reason, I was thinking, like, if you go out to lunch with a bunch of friends, and you have the people that say, hey, let's just split it.
Let's make it easy. Let's just make this like, let's just split it evenly between all of us. And they're like, everybody's, you know, the people who are probably Fs are very cool with that. There might be a T that's like, well, I only had a salad and a Diet Coke.
You know, you chicks were over there slamming down mimosas and I'm not paying for that. And it's not like one could say, oh, you're just being difficult or you're being cheap. And that's not it at all. It's like they're saying, they might be coming from a place of that's not fair.
That's not a just thing. Like we should pay for what we ordered.
00:20:29 - Maelisa Hall
And that's a really good example, like a really good real life example.
00:20:34 - Amber Hawley
And it does come up all the time. Right. Which actually now makes sense why I'm so cool with like, yeah, no problem. I'll split it. The only time I'm not cool with splitting it is when I feel I have out ordered everybody. And then I'm like, no, no, no, I got to pay for my share because I would feel bad.
00:20:50 - Maelisa Hall
And that's again, But that's your F more than your T, right? Because you're like, oh, I don't want everyone to feel bad or feel like they have to pay for me. Yeah, I wouldn't want somebody to be upset about that.
00:21:00 - Amber Hawley
So I feel, I'll take one for the team. Yes, I guess that is an F thing. Interesting, interesting.
00:21:06 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah, what a good example. Yeah, but you see it play out in so many things. And it can be difficult because I think just like that example or like what we were saying before, it's not that one is right or wrong. So it can be really difficult because this does tend to come up in disagreements or arguments.
And it's not like you can shine a light and say, this is the correct way to do it or this is the correct answer. So it really requires being able to try and put yourself in the other person's shoes.
00:21:34 - Amber Hawley
Yeah, because I've seen that. I've seen that where people are very pissed off, like, ugh, that person is so cheap and they're... They're just so difficult. And then the other way, it's like, oh, that person is taking advantage and trying to mooch and make me pay for their stuff.
But understanding it's just a different way. And those things might be true. Somebody might be a mooch and somebody might be difficult and cheap. But let's try to look at it in a different way, I guess. So just because we want to stay on time's sake here, let's go for the last one, which is judging versus perceiving.
So can you tell us a little bit about that, Melissa?
00:22:10 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah. And this I feel like has actually the worst words to go with the letters, but it is what it is. But this is really looking at kind of how do you live your life? And I think the best explanation I've heard of the J and the P is about planning. So are you a planner or a non-planner?
So people who are Js tend to be planners and people who are Ps tend to be wing it type people, right? So obviously those are the extremes, but this is where you see this come up. And I have a really good example of this one. So my husband and I were traveling and we were flying on Southwest, which if you haven't flown on Southwest, you don't have assigned seating.
You're in these groups and you're in a group based on when you signed up or when you I am A-list because I used to travel a lot.
So I get automatically checked in and my husband is not. So he was like way behind because on top of that, I also did not plan ahead and did not check him in on time. So based on my P personality, he's like in the C group and I'm in the A group, like at the front, right?
So I'm just thinking, oh, but hey, it doesn't matter because I'm in the A group. I'll go sit down and I'll grab him a seat. But I didn't tell him this until we're like lining up to get our seats or to get on the plane. And he's like, are you kidding me?
He's like, wait. And it really frustrated him. And he was like, this is just, he was so frustrated. And I felt bad because I did realize in that moment, oh yeah, this is kind of like his worst nightmare, right? Like as a J, he's somebody who needs to plan ahead.
Like I should have told him this. And even if I had told him before that, about when he needed to check in, because I just took that over, then he would have made sure he was checked in.
So he was upfront further, you know, and I'm just thinking, we'll just wing it. It'll be fine. It'll work out. And he's like, no, no, no. we need to make this happen. And he's totally right. And it worked out just fine anyways, which I know frustrates a lot of J's is when people like us when we do that stuff.
And then it does work out just fine. And then the J's are like, ugh, it's so unjust.
00:24:20 - Amber Hawley
That's an awesome example, by the way. Because I would be like, well, duh, you're up there and you can save a seat. No biggie. I know, right? Yeah.
00:24:28 - Maelisa Hall
If it was you and me, it wouldn't have mattered. Right. And so it was just one of those many reminders of things that happened where I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. To be respectful of him because it really stressed him out and just frustrated him. And even if I had...
maybe we still would have had that same situation. But if I had planned ahead and given him the information ahead of time and talked about what we were going to do, that would have made him feel a lot less frustrated.
00:24:56 - Amber Hawley
Yeah, that's a great example. And I feel like there are so many examples about the J and the P, which is funny because I know that the information had said that the S and the N were the connectors. Those are the ones that matter. but I feel like the J and the P is where a lot of people have problems.
And I remember, I remember going to this like alumni thing at my university where I got my master's degree in psychology and my, one of the professors who I just loved and adored, we were talking about something and we're talking about the Myers-Briggs and because psychology people can be geeks.
And she was saying, I was saying like, Oh, I'm an ENFP and she's a J and she goes, Oh, oh, you pee people. She goes, I always have such a hard time with pees. And I was devastated because I was like, but I love you.
You can't not want to love me. And it was just so funny. And I thought, that's not right. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I get it. I totally get it. But I could see where we would be very frustrating. And vice versa. Sometimes it's like, oh, calm down.
It's going to be fine. But I actually think... I think I must be a little more towards the middle. I can't remember my percentage because I do sometimes like I get really stuck into the, okay, now this has to happen, especially when there's a lot going on to make sure that the flow goes.
And I think it's almost impossible to have three children and not be a little bit of a planner. I think that would be a nightmare. That would be a shit show for sure.
00:26:26 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah. Yeah. Or to have employees, like you have all these employees working for you. So there's a lot of times, and I think that's a good example where sometimes we have to move along the spectrum because life dictates that we adjust a little bit. But as, you know, or as an entrepreneur, that's where you know, okay, I have to do something so that this will happen.
So like one of the things I do is if I want to create something or make something happen, I know I have to have a deadline. Because I'm not going to sit there and plan it all out. It's just never going to happen. And I've had to realize that about myself.
And so I will make a public announcement that something's going to be available on a certain date. And that gives me some kind of a deadline.
00:27:07 - Amber Hawley
Yeah. And I think when we set deadlines for ourselves, then it's very different. But when it's out there and we know someone else is expecting it of us, we tend to be very... We're on that. We're not flaky people. So that's not the... those aren't the ways in which we're flexible in deadlines and rules, right?
It's the ones that we're like, hey, like for this, I don't know that I, and I was thinking of this on the way here, I do not know that I could partner with somebody that was a J and record this podcast because we would make each other insane. Whereas you and I, and we talked to this with some people last week, We were talking about the fact that we'll say, okay, we're going to plan ahead what we're going to talk about.
And then we're going to start recording. We block out our recording time. So we do do that. Okay, we're going to record from noon to two. Okay, so we're going to do that.
Inevitably, every single time. it's like 12 o'clock and we'll call each other. And one of us will be like, I'm usually in line at Starbucks at that point. And I'm saying, I'm like, I'm almost there. Or you're running late for something, you know, you're doing something else too.
Or we get sidetracked and we kind of lose track of time. Inevitably, we always start a little bit later, but that's okay. Like we're, it doesn't stress either of us out. We always make it work. So yeah.
00:28:21 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah. And I think part of that obviously is because we're friends and we feel comfortable comfortable, but it's also because I know you're not going to care.
00:28:29 - Amber Hawley
Yeah.
00:28:30 - Maelisa Hall
And that's what you're saying. If one of us were a J, the other person would be stressing out about making sure we had to do this on time and what do we have to do? Whereas for us, we can both show up and feel comfortable and it's not a big deal.
00:28:43 - Amber Hawley
Yeah. I have some employees that are Js and there's no way that I would want to be just so lackadaisical about stuff like that. So yeah, that's where you have to know that. That's Knowing the person is very helpful. And you know, even today we we said, Okay, we're.
We decided, like, Okay, let's let's start a half an hour early, let's do it 11, 30. And then by the time we actually got started with all the tech issues and other stuff, it was noon. We're like, why do we bother? why do we even try? But I do, it makes it.
I know that we're, we're gonna get it done because that's who we are, that's the kind of people we are. But I don't feel stressed by it because it's. I know at the end of the day, it's all going to work out. And that is such a P thing to say.
00:29:24 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah. And that's where I think I do see the P and the J come up a lot in business. Like I think about my corporate experience and this is where it's good. You have to have those J people to do things like plan things out. And they're the spreadsheet people and the ones who are breaking things down step by step.
And it's so helpful. But then at the same time, as the P person, a lot of times I was more able to think outside the box. So if something wasn't working with the plan, then I'm like, oh, okay, it's not working with the plan. Switch it up. Bam. You know, like snap of the fingers, we're doing something different.
And that's not easy for everybody to do. So you need both of those because if everybody were relying on me for the plan, it would be a mess.
00:30:10 - Amber Hawley
Touché. So I think we're about out of time, but hopefully this gives you a little bit more information when you take that test on 16personalities.com, to which we have no affiliation, by the way. We just want to tell you that we don't get anything from people going there.
It's just an awesome site. And the information that they give you for free is amazing. It's very extensive. And it's very valuable. Knowing yourself is very valuable. And knowing those people close to you in a more... you know, knowing them in a way that expands on your basic interaction, I think is really helpful, whether they're employees or partners or your biz bestie.
So I think it's a valuable resource. Is there anything else that you want to add, Melissa, before we wrap up?
00:30:55 - Maelisa Hall
No, I think what we've really tried to highlight in this episode in the last one, which is that there's no right or wrong and it's a spectrum. So you want to remember both of those things and see where you are on that spectrum too. So if you do decide to take one of the personality tests and you feel like it doesn't necessarily describe you well, maybe you're in the middle.
And so maybe you check out if you got an N, check out the S personality type as well. It's not a perfect thing, but it can give you some really, really good insight.
00:31:24 - Amber Hawley
That's great advice. And so head on over to mybizbestie.com and this is episode eight. So go over to episode eight and we'll have expanded show notes and we're going to have the downloadables that it's a great one sheet that again goes into all the personality types as just a high level thing for you to look at, which can be kind of fun.
And we'll have some other funny treats over there too that you can only get on our website. So yeah, take a look over there. And as always, we'd love for you to subscribe so you never miss an episode. And then let us know what, you know, if you take the test, we'd love to hear from you.
We'd love to geek out on this personality stuff. So you can either, you know, visit us on Facebook or leave us a message on our site. But we would love to hear, you know, if you took the test, what you are and if, you know, you got any value out of it.
00:32:13 - Maelisa Hall
Yeah, let us know.
00:32:14 - Amber Hawley
Let us know. So thanks for coming and we'll see you next week.
